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motodad116 Meridian, Idaho USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:33 AM CST |
That would be a cat fight sir! I am a dog and I take offense to that!
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countrygirl62 Taylorsville, Utah USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:33 AM CST | First of all, Bush has cried while talking about Jeb Bush.
Secondly, maybe we need some one with a little feeling. What about our soldiers?? The suicide rate, the number dead, thier medical care, or equipment. WE NEED COMPASSION!!!!
You now what Bush said about the economy for the middle class. " It is going to be tuff for a while..." Do you think he is feeling any pain!
C'mon!
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In response to:damn now people will be happy to sacrifice their soap operas. this presidential nomination coverage could soon make "crying" a election event.... whos the first presidential nominee to shed tears of joy? anyone? anyone?? Damn Tom Hanks and that movie where he said, "Are you Crying? Theres no crying in baseball!" could be very appropriate about now. let the performance begin... Thespian (politicians)... Five minutes to curtain!! the show of emotions is about to begin.... God help us all quoted message
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countrygirl62 Taylorsville, Utah USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:37 AM CST | I agree with you 100%
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In response to:Is it any wonder that American elections seem to be a popularity contest and that those who may be the best qualified are overlooked or refuse to run? The OP presented a serious, thoughtful opening for discussion, which was met with silliness, mean spiritedness, broad generalizations based on little or no information, sexism, fallacious thinking (the analogy between being a car mechanic and a president is seriously flawed), sarcasm, etc. Is a thoughtful, serious, well informed dialogue considered pointless or is it just too much work? Though I don’t currently live in America, I am an American and do have a right to an opinion, which I hope will be treated with respect. I think Hilary would be the best option because of her experience and because she would have a strong partner. Though he wasn’t perfect, I think Bill was an effective president and I believe, having traveled a great deal, that the rest of the world respects and admires him, which is in complete contrast to how they see Bush. Having a president that can gain the respect and admiration of the rest of the world is extremely important. I like Obama, but I think he may be too inexperienced. I would like to see a democratic ticket with Hilary as presidential candidate and Obama as vice presidential candidate. Then, hopefully, there could be 16 years of democratic policy in the white house. quoted message
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countrygirl62 Taylorsville, Utah USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:41 AM CST | Sorry go to get some
But I would love to argue with ya!
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motodad116 Meridian, Idaho USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:41 AM CST | I'm not trying to be being rude, but to listen to any of U advocating either Clinton only shows that U really believe that either of them care about something other than getting the other elected. If U stepped out of UR hate republican/bush box U would see how everything said by either of them at any time, only reflects last nights polls. It's the truth and so few will open themselves to it for their own personal reasons; Of which I have never heard a good arguement for. Only my opinion.
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In response to:I suppose it was Bill that helped her gradutate from Yale, become an attorney and later voted for Most Influential in America twice, First Lady of Arkansas and helped transformed schools, best selling author, advocate for health care, families, womens rights, and human rights around the world. She was elected Senator of New York and was for the middle class, strengthening home land security, improving intelligence. Against the privatization of Social security. First New York Senator to be named Senate Armed Services Committee, and an advocate for proper equipment to our soldiers, and health benefits and treatment of military families. Not to mention that she was first Lady she continued to be an advocate for child care, breast cancer research, help vetrans suffering from Gulf War Syndrome, prevention of teenage pregnancy, Helped create adoption and safe families act, safe drug testing for children, against the abuse of women and children writing another book "It Takes A Village", and DONATED THE MILLION DOLLAR PROCEEDS TO CHILDRENS CHARITIES. She also wrote her own biography "Living History", which was another BEST SELLER! She is not just another stupid women. She is no slouch! quoted message
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countrygirl62 Taylorsville, Utah USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 2:07 AM CST | I think that all the canidates care, but the canidates have varying degrees of experience, and successes. I think that their previous record is important.
They bash clinton for crying, they are so critical, she has no role models for her to follow...
Bush, I sorry, he does not say the smartest things some times.
So take out the crying thing, then what... we are still left with the experience, and smarts.
Do you know that G W Bush has a trail of business failures, it IS A FACT.
Hillary, as a successfull author, donated proceeds of million dollars from her book to charity.
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In response to:I'm not trying to be being rude, but to listen to any of U advocating either Clinton only shows that U really believe that either of them care about something other than getting the other elected. If U stepped out of UR hate republican/bush box U would see how everything said by either of them at any time, only reflects last nights polls. It's the truth and so few will open themselves to it for their own personal reasons; Of which I have never heard a good arguement for. Only my opinion. quoted message
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motodad116 Meridian, Idaho USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 3:49 AM CST | We are talking about the Presidency of the United States. Something less important like brain surgery on Ur child. Would U allow Ur surgeons wife to operate just because he was retired? Now mind U - he is right there to tell her what to do. She has only done and said what it takes to be president - she has not accomplished anything but have someone help her put a good book together and then donated the money from it because she didn't need it anyways. I'm sorry but the only genuine emotion I have seen is when she is mad. I could care less about the crying - we all do it and I think I could cry my way through the presidency and still so a better job than has been done in twenty years Clinton is boring and driven by polls gimme real thought and don't forget - there are alot of repulicans that U won't even consider simply becasue they are republicans I like Ur enthusiasm though and I don't ever believe U said it was because she is a woman.
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In response to:I think that all the canidates care, but the canidates have varying degrees of experience, and successes. I think that their previous record is important. They bash clinton for crying, they are so critical, she has no role models for her to follow... Bush, I sorry, he does not say the smartest things some times. So take out the crying thing, then what... we are still left with the experience, and smarts. Do you know that G W Bush has a trail of business failures, it IS A FACT. Hillary, as a successfull author, donated proceeds of million dollars from her book to charity. quoted message
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JTB Memphis, Tennessee USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 3:55 AM CST | Hillary's experience?
1. While First Lady of Arkansas invested $1000 in the commodities market and made roughly $100,000. Do you think she did this because she is a genius? Possibly, not probably. This is the first and only time she has invested in the commodities market. The more likely scenario is that Tyson Foods'...chicken... brokers had a big part in this. They had everything to gain and nothing to lose.
2. Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, AR, her employer, is still trying to figure out what documents she shredded before she left town.
3. Successful author and donated millions to charity. Do you think she sat down at a keyboard and typed the script. Not a chance. Would the small item of being presiding or past First Lady have any bearing on the success. ABSOLUTELY. Did she donate millions to charity out of the goodness of her heart, being the compassionate person that she is? Maybe a tiny, tiny percentage of it. Tax benefits and knowing that in the future she wants to be PRESIDENT would be the more correct answer. Looks great on a resime.
4. While First Lady of the Unied States of America brought forth a CHANGE, as the candidates are wearing out in the campaign, in the way healthcare is run. How did that turn out? Laid a big EGG, pardon the pun...Tyson Foods. Since she has never hardly had a real job or run a real business would that not classify as a FAILURE? Living off the tax payers is her business and the only thing she ever tried to do on a national scale, failed.
In finishing, being a former First Lady and a Senator does not give you any experience to be President. Most experience being President comes from ON THE JOB TRAINING.
You may not want to hear it but I have more coming, at a later time, on The great Social Security scam. The Democrats Baby and they don't want the Republicans to change or fix it because then they would have nothing to fall back on except Welfare and Public Education which is in shambles. I had to throw in a little Richard Nixon sign.
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Indyfella indianapolis, Indiana USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 5:42 AM CST |
Hmmm.......finally an educated thought
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In response to:Hillary's experience? 1. While First Lady of Arkansas invested $1000 in the commodities market and made roughly $100,000. Do you think she did this because she is a genius? Possibly, not probably. This is the first and only time she has invested in the commodities market. The more likely scenario is that Tyson Foods'...chicken... brokers had a big part in this. They had everything to gain and nothing to lose. 2. Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, AR, her employer, is still trying to figure out what documents she shredded before she left town. 3. Successful author and donated millions to charity. Do you think she sat down at a keyboard and typed the script. Not a chance. Would the small item of being presiding or past First Lady have any bearing on the success. ABSOLUTELY. Did she donate millions to charity out of the goodness of her heart, being the compassionate person that she is? Maybe a tiny, tiny percentage of it. Tax benefits and knowing that in the future she wants to be PRESIDENT would be the more correct answer. Looks great on a resime. 4. While First Lady of the Unied States of America brought forth a CHANGE, as the candidates are wearing out in the campaign, in the way healthcare is run. How did that turn out? Laid a big EGG, pardon the pun...Tyson Foods. Since she has never hardly had a real job or run a real business would that not classify as a FAILURE? Living off the tax payers is her business and the only thing she ever tried to do on a national scale, failed. In finishing, being a former First Lady and a Senator does not give you any experience to be President. Most experience being President comes from ON THE JOB TRAINING. You may not want to hear it but I have more coming, at a later time, on The great Social Security scam. The Democrats Baby and they don't want the Republicans to change or fix it because then they would have nothing to fall back on except Welfare and Public Education which is in shambles. I had to throw in a little Richard Nixon sign. quoted message
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Daniel4021 Somewhere, Tennessee USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 6:04 AM CST | I say we nominate Shadow_Lover for president
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In response to: Ladies and Gentlemen Hillary is NOT a Choice! Obama is NOT a choice! McCain Is NOT a choice! Guilliani sure as HECK is NOT a choice! Say GNOMER crooked Politicians! Say GNOMER status quo! Say GNOMER partisian politics! Say GNOMER paid lobbyists! SAY GNOMER FOR PRESIDENT! I am Gnomer, The Wandering Gnome, and I approove this message. quoted message
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Shadow_lover West Palm, Florida USA
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letitroll phoenix, Arizona USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 8:25 AM CST | This country is in a position that cannot afford on the job training....time is of the essence my friend....and as far as all your other opinions regarding this womans motives, and or objectives, they are all hearsay. If you have bashing to do, back it up with facts, not your slanted opinions.......
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In response to:Hillary's experience? 1. While First Lady of Arkansas invested $1000 in the commodities market and made roughly $100,000. Do you think she did this because she is a genius? Possibly, not probably. This is the first and only time she has invested in the commodities market. The more likely scenario is that Tyson Foods'...chicken... brokers had a big part in this. They had everything to gain and nothing to lose. 2. Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, AR, her employer, is still trying to figure out what documents she shredded before she left town. 3. Successful author and donated millions to charity. Do you think she sat down at a keyboard and typed the script. Not a chance. Would the small item of being presiding or past First Lady have any bearing on the success. ABSOLUTELY. Did she donate millions to charity out of the goodness of her heart, being the compassionate person that she is? Maybe a tiny, tiny percentage of it. Tax benefits and knowing that in the future she wants to be PRESIDENT would be the more correct answer. Looks great on a resime. 4. While First Lady of the Unied States of America brought forth a CHANGE, as the candidates are wearing out in the campaign, in the way healthcare is run. How did that turn out? Laid a big EGG, pardon the pun...Tyson Foods. Since she has never hardly had a real job or run a real business would that not classify as a FAILURE? Living off the tax payers is her business and the only thing she ever tried to do on a national scale, failed. In finishing, being a former First Lady and a Senator does not give you any experience to be President. Most experience being President comes from ON THE JOB TRAINING. You may not want to hear it but I have more coming, at a later time, on The great Social Security scam. The Democrats Baby and they don't want the Republicans to change or fix it because then they would have nothing to fall back on except Welfare and Public Education which is in shambles. I had to throw in a little Richard Nixon sign. quoted message
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Daniel4021 Somewhere, Tennessee USA
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gr8str8d8 Silver City USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 8:41 AM CST | I woke up this morning to find that Hillary had come from behind to take New Hampshire. I have not been as passionate about a political race since trying to stop Bush from getting a second term....so the news nearly brought me to tears. Of course, in this forum, I anticipate that this comment will bring about a sarcastic response.
I sincerely appreciate your intellegent thought into this process. I not only agree with you wholeheartedly, but also appreciate your candor and courage to voice your opinion in the mannerisms of others who comment in these forums. The rules of engagement here, are truly obscured, but in the sense that this site is primarily not a political site, I would caution those who wish to expose themselves so readily, to remember, that others are watching..............
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In response to:Is it any wonder that American elections seem to be a popularity contest and that those who may be the best qualified are overlooked or refuse to run? The OP presented a serious, thoughtful opening for discussion, which was met with silliness, mean spiritedness, broad generalizations based on little or no information, sexism, fallacious thinking (the analogy between being a car mechanic and a president is seriously flawed), sarcasm, etc. Is a thoughtful, serious, well informed dialogue considered pointless or is it just too much work? Though I don’t currently live in America, I am an American and do have a right to an opinion, which I hope will be treated with respect. I think Hilary would be the best option because of her experience and because she would have a strong partner. Though he wasn’t perfect, I think Bill was an effective president and I believe, having traveled a great deal, that the rest of the world respects and admires him, which is in complete contrast to how they see Bush. Having a president that can gain the respect and admiration of the rest of the world is extremely important. I like Obama, but I think he may be too inexperienced. I would like to see a democratic ticket with Hilary as presidential candidate and Obama as vice presidential candidate. Then, hopefully, there could be 16 years of democratic policy in the white house. quoted message
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agman Eagle, Idaho USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 8:42 AM CST | I do not like to see a dynasty forming in the Democratic party. We are all aware of the Bush dynasty feassco. The problem with government is that the well to do have establish themselves in it and preverted the constitution and principles of early America. Ron Paul is the only canidate who talks with some common sense. Sadly I am a democrate with a poor choice of canidates again and Clinton will be last on the list to vote for.
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dazzling_dave Waynesboro, Virginia USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 10:11 AM CST | If a decent candidate from an opposing party were the better choice, then I would have to forget about voting along party lines and vote for the person that I thought had the country's best interests at heart.
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Lionhearted1967 London, Ontario Canada
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:55 PM CST | Bush also knew prior to 9/11 and couldn't be bothered! His administartion also jeopardized a CIA operative that WAS giving good information and tryed to destroy her to cover up his fuck up.
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In response to:yeah he did the country a real service,he was taking fron social security and every other money source he could find.He didnt have a big terriost attack and nothing had been done about the smaller attacks.He knew prior to 9-11that it was said it was going to happen but couldnt be bothered.He got along well with all nations because he didnt know how to say no.He will go down in history as he cigar president quoted message
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Lionhearted1967 London, Ontario Canada
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 1:58 PM CST | To be honest..I don't like "ANY" candidate that is running. The only one who comes close is Ron Paul.
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In response to:Hillary Clinton is the best choice we have for President, especially considering that she has a former president of the USA behind her. At the end of his term, Bill handed the country a surplus budget, to which now has translated into trillion dollar deficit. The country enjoyed economic growth, and we actually still had favorable standing with the rest of the world. She would be tough against terroism, and would be compassionate to the rest of the worlds problems......and she would have Bill to possibly send to the middle east to help negotiate an end to yet another American military folly. Obama is definately for America as well, but not untested, without experience, we already know whos waiting in the wings with Hillary....who does Obama have? quoted message
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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
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wanderinggnome Belle Fourche, South Dakota USA
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| | Clinton for President Posted: Jan 9, 2008, 3:05 PM CST |
Oh PLEASE!
I don't trust politicians that much, but I refuse to get my facts from Rosie O'donnel!
I also like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, But 9/11 was nothing more than a bunch of crazed morons running planes into buidings. And the CIA operative? Just what kind of information was she passing? And if we have a conspiracy, the CIA would be the ones brought in to handle it,
Let's stay in the realm of reality .
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In response to:Bush also knew prior to 9/11 and couldn't be bothered! His administartion also jeopardized a CIA operative that WAS giving good information and tryed to destroy her to cover up his fuck up. quoted message
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