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Conrad73
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Obama for President...............perspicuus adversus mutus!
Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:08 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
For the first........ I dont hate McCain..... I just know this man is out of balance and too sick and too high tempered and too Bully and too ignorant for being able to manange the worlds most diffiuclt job Kansan!

I beleive this dude should be sent to a nice eledry home instead of being the one with the codes because I am afraid he will if he is awaken 3 am will nuke whole nations because of the side effects of the medication he have to take every single day!

McCain or McNasty as he was called not too many years ago, has shown again and again that he really is not able to control his enourmous anger and a man like that on power in the greatest super power ever is not a wise choice at all and just another reason why the whole world population would stay "Feared" exactly as the last dark years in human history which always will be named as the years of darkness and nothign else than that!

Bush has F***ED up a whole worlds economy and I dont want another Bush on power because I want to keep my retirement investments intact and thats very understandable and I want this fight agaisnt terrorism being done right and I want planet earth being saved from natur haters amoung bushney,s and all this is truely understandable if you really think about this Kansan!

Beside...... I will keep talking exactly McCain styled .... this man does have no idea what politeness is at all and he belongs to dark ages of 1600,s instead of the 21.st centurry!

Obama campain has also take the Gloves off ... Finally! Now it is McCain turn to feel the heat!
Every word of yours is dripping Hate Contempt and Venom.
Don't give anyone this Shit about you not hating.
That is the whole purpose of your Being.
Hiding behind your "Concern For Humanity".dropping jaw D'oh! rolling on the floor laughing





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:19 PM CST

WhatUwish4 wrote:
Do you know which special interest has given more money to the Obama and Clinton campaigns than any other?

If you guessed "trial lawyers" -- well, okay, that's too easy. But can you guess which special interest came in second?
Labor unions? Nope.
The Green Lobby? Nope.
AARP? Wrong, again. NEA? Nyet.

Give up? Okay, here's the answer: Wall Street.

That's right. According to CNNMoney.com, Wall Street securities and investment firms have given over $35 million to Democratic candidates this election cycle. And the amount they've given to the Clinton and Obama campaigns is nearly five times the amount they've given to McCain. If you've been wondering why the financial industry has been in meltdown -- and taking your 401(k) or investment portfolio down with it -- now you know.


Let us imagine you are right about this Wish4........

Maybe these guys also know that the Bushney,s and McCain are terrible for the economy and because of that Fact they endorse Obama more than McCain!

Wall streeters are not the real reason of this depression in your country....... George W Bush and his men are the main reason and wall streeters.... just "went along" with the possibilities of Fraud caused by the Bushney,s in the last dark eight years in your country!

Now on days any body is trying to point at this guy or another to explain the reaosns of economichal melt down of the worlds earlier strongest economy but the main guilty is no body else than George W Bush and his "Economy is Stupied" administration,who gave a free ride to any cheater "milking" the nation so the nation would forget about the geneside they were a part of in Iraq and other countries as well!

when they Removed all regularities and decide the freemarked is the one and only way of running a country, then the ports of hell opened Because No body is that honest any way and responsible governments must do any thing they can to Control the marked so things does not get out of control......the Bushney,s and by that this McCain dude have failed this very important mission and what we see today was widely wanred about in the last many years and it happened even most people did not beleive in that!








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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:22 PM CST

StressFree wrote:
What's up Kansan

Well, trust me, I am a forgiver and totally understand that we all make some bad decisions as we go through certain phases during life. I'm all for giving second and third chances.

The point I was making to Tom was that some people hold our leaders to unrealistic standards. I mean, presidential candidates do have two arms and two legs just like me and you, and to focus on their past and make an assessment for how they will do in the future is really kinda unfair, but can be fair depending on the dynamics and circumstances of any given situation.
Kansan, you are gonna have to strengthen your argument. I'm not buying it. Drawing parallels between Lincoln and Bush is just a way to ignore the horrible atrocities that the Bush administration and their connections have committed. Today shows it and tomorrow will only continue to confirm it. How on earth can GW Bush ever be vindicated in the future? Where can you even fathom to make a solid argument? You are unqualified to judge? As voters and citizens of the United States of America, I think we are sure as hell qualified to judge his actions. That's our job for sustaining our Democracy...
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StressFree
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:23 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:


Bush has F***ED up a whole worlds economy and I dont want another Bush on power because I want to keep my retirement investments intact and thats very understandable and I want this fight agaisnt terrorism being done right.

Obama campain has also take the Gloves off ... Finally! Now it is McCain turn to feel the heat!


singleDude, there is plenty of blame to spread around so can you please stop using Bush in almost all your posts and the ongoing dilemma of how to correctly fight terrorism is a very passionate and divided issue.

And yes, Obama is quite the wizard at the politics game!





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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:23 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Let us imagine you are right about this Wish4........

Maybe these guys also know that the Bushney,s and McCain are terrible for the economy and because of that Fact they endorse Obama more than McCain!

Wall streeters are not the real reason of this depression in your country....... George W Bush and his men are the main reason and wall streeters.... just "went along" with the possibilities of Fraud caused by the Bushney,s in the last dark eight years in your country!

Now on days any body is trying to point at this guy or another to explain the reaosns of economichal melt down of the worlds earlier strongest economy but the main guilty is no body else than George W Bush and his "Economy is Stupied" administration,who gave a free ride to any cheater "milking" the nation so the nation would forget about the geneside they were a part of in Iraq and other countries as well!

when they Removed all regularities and decide the freemarked is the one and only way of running a country, then the ports of hell opened Because No body is that honest any way and responsible governments must do any thing they can to Control the marked so things does not get out of control......the Bushney,s and by that this McCain dude have failed this very important mission and what we see today was widely wanred about in the last many years and it happened even most people did not beleive in that!
Sure glad Government is "HONEST".
Goddamn Dude,do you ever think before you BLABBER?
You are the Personification of everything that is wrong with this world.
Yor Wishy-Washy Woolly Socialist Mysticism.D'oh!





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Indyfella
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:24 PM CST

StressFree wrote:
I may live in Sweden, but my feet and heart will always be planted in California. Born and raised Californian/American

My best friends are American, my family is American, some of my daily thoughts are American, I go back home every year for at least 5 weeks and my persona is Californian...I'm getting the tone that I may be in your kitchen doing as I please Indy dude...you are actually starting to sound like a danish dude from the Bizarro world



Hell, I thought you were his brother... sorry crying










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Indyfella
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:25 PM CST


Hey, something funny.



Guess what Obama and Osama have in common???? This is too cute.





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jlw45
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:33 PM CST

Indyfella wrote:
Hey, something funny.
Guess what Obama and Osama have in common???? This is too cute.
please do telllaugh





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jlw45
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:33 PM CST

"A government big enough to give you everything you want,
is strong enough to take everything you have."
Thomas Jefferson






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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland

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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:33 PM CST

Indyfella wrote:
Hey, something funny.
Guess what Obama and Osama have in common???? This is too cute.
Come on,spill the Beans!rolling on the floor laughing





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Indyfella
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:34 PM CST

jlw45 wrote:
please do tell



They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon!!!!rolling on the floor laughing








OOPS!.........................that's not funny after all. I forgot sigh





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WhatUwish4
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:35 PM CST

Indyfella wrote:
They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon!!!! OOPS!.........................that's not funny after all. I forgot (this is dedicated to one person on here)



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The_Kansan
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:35 PM CST

StressFree wrote:
Okay Kansan, thanks for the reply and I can respect your viewpoint.

Your last post absolutely strengthened your argument from a vantage point of speculation and perspective. However,
the world was a different place during the Civil War as opposed to today.
There are different things at stake, especially on a global level. So in my honest assessment, I really don't see any benefit of comparing 1865 to 2007. Those two wars are not even in the same ballpark. The whole core of this issue is justification. Of course using history as our guide can prove to be essential in order to see the big picture. I just think drawing parallels from the Civil War to the current war really does not put things in a tidy nutshell.

I can add in my 2 kronors and draw parallels from other imperialistic wars or endeavors to put things in the sexy clear. But I won't. I might be called anti America

Okay, I give up :waving whit flag: You guys are correct in everything you say. I will no longer oppose your viewpoints. I can't take on a certain demographic from the old school. I was born in 73 in California, and you people were born before 1970 and not in California. Too bad your demographic will be overwhelmed on election day


SF,

If I understand your pesrpective, then this war is the worst thing to happen in the history of the world, or at least in recent history. In 1864 or thereabouts the exact same thing could have been (and was) said about the civil war.

As to 'different things being at stake, especially on a global level' - Consider all the ramifications to European countries dependant upon the outcome of said war. Anyone who thinks that the American Civil war didn't affect the entire 'modern' world at the time needs to go back and do a little brushing up on their history. Had the CSA won and the South successfully seceded (try saying that 10 time fast) the world would be a completely different place than it is now.

In 1861 the whole core issue also was 'justification.' Some historians argue that Mr. Lincoln was justified and was trying only to preserve the union. Others, with some credibility I might add, claim that Lincoln was a warmonger who was only reaching for a 2nd term in the Whitehouse. By the same token, there are those who claim that Mr. Bush is justified in his actions and that - whatever the initial excuses - the fact that Hussein was 'captured and brought to justice' is enough by itself to excuse our being over there. Others see Mr. Bush only as a warmonger who started the war for his own selfish reasons. Personally, I don't happen to share either viewpoint 100 percent. Guess I've never really fit in anywhere...

As to 'putting things in a tidy nutshell' - I went squirrel hunting this morning up on the ridge and saw quite a few nutshells... None of them were tidy. Neither is this, but it gives me a way of wrapping my feeble old mind around it in such a way as to be able to understand how history works... And how presidencies are judged...

And if you have the specific historic knowledge of the "other imperialistic wars or endeavors" you allude to to "put things in the sexy clear" then by all means do so.

Lastly, you are correct - I was not born in California. My father and 4 older brothers were though. Unfortunately for us, you are correct again that we were all born before 1970. For that - and I speak on behalf of my father and brothers (who were all born within spitting dsitance of 'Frisco) - you have our sincere and humble apologies (we weren't given much choice in the matter). sad flower





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jlw45
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:37 PM CST

Indyfella wrote:
They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon!!!! OOPS!.........................that's not funny after all. I forgot (this is dedicated to one person on here)
dont forget....they both have friends that preach hate to america as wellprofessor





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:40 PM CST

Indyfella wrote:
'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' <famous quote


Yeah in deed this is a true sign that Obama is able to respect any ameircans no matter what relegion they have! Muslims are a part of the United States as well and Naming Muslims by it self does not mean the man is bad or any thing Indyfella!

Even the lord of darkness and ignorence him self , George W Bush made a dinner party for Muslims every year in their Eid you see?

What would you prefer then? Calling for eliminating Muslims or any stupied things as that? As told before........ Never forget Nazis had a whole bunch of reaons to hate Jewish people and they have explained that in their books very deeply but still the history has shown us that nazism is one of the greatest enemies of humanity, and peace amoung nations!

In a time where almost the whole nation of America was Angry and wanted to attack any muslims and it actually happeend many places after 9/11...... a man with balls of steel Barack Obama stood firmly agaisnt Hatered as he also stood against the Stupied war in Iraq in a time where no body dared doing so!

This particular Quote of Obama is one of the best ones made by him showing how admirable and brave this true man of honur is!

Never endorse the Evil moud of the mess who want to hang them all Indy..... because if you do so, life has learned you not a damn thing!







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Conrad73
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:43 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah in deed this is a true sign that Obama is able to respect any ameircans no matter what relegion they have! Muslims are a part of the United States as well and Naming Muslims by it self does not mean the man is bad or any thing Indyfella!

Even the lord of darkness and ignorence him self , George W Bush made a dinner party for Muslims every year in their Eid you see?

What would you prefer then? Calling for eliminating Muslims or any stupied things as that? As told before........ Never forget Nazis had a whole bunch of reaons to hate Jewish people and they have explained that in their books very deeply but still the history has shown us that nazism is one of the greatest enemies of humanity, and peace amoung nations!

In a time where almost the whole nation of America was Angry and wanted to attack any muslims and it actually happeend many places after 9/11...... a man with balls of steel Barack Obama stood firmly agaisnt Hatered as he also stood against the Stupied war in Iraq in a time where no body dared doing so!

This particular Quote of Obama is one of the best ones made by him showing how admirable and brave this true man of honur is!

Never endorse the Evil moud of the mess who want to hang them all Indy..... because if you do so, life has learned you not a damn thing!
professor This Is Shit!professor
















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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:45 PM CST

Skybow wrote:
Now Wish please don't get me started on McCains special interest groups and lobby money.


The old war monger dude have really strong and rich connections in deed:

http://lobbyistsformccain.com/

I really love this site........ Specially the way McCains picture is manipulated..... not his face at all..... He looks that way when ever he gets Confused or imberresed laugh

http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/





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Indyfella
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:46 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah in deed this is a true sign that Obama is able to respect any ameircans no matter what relegion they have! Muslims are a part of the United States as well and Naming Muslims by it self does not mean the man is bad or any thing Indyfella!

Even the lord of darkness and ignorence him self , George W Bush made a dinner party for Muslims every year in their Eid you see?

What would you prefer then? Calling for eliminating Muslims or any stupied things as that? As told before........ Never forget Nazis had a whole bunch of reaons to hate Jewish people and they have explained that in their books very deeply but still the history has shown us that nazism is one of the greatest enemies of humanity, and peace amoung nations!

In a time where almost the whole nation of America was Angry and wanted to attack any muslims and it actually happeend many places after 9/11...... a man with balls of steel Barack Obama stood firmly agaisnt Hatered as he also stood against the Stupied war in Iraq in a time where no body dared doing so!

This particular Quote of Obama is one of the best ones made by him showing how admirable and brave this true man of honur is!

Never endorse the Evil moud of the mess who want to hang them all Indy..... because if you do so, life has learned you not a damn thing!



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing you're way too funny dude. Wish I could put up more emoticons.





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Hot_Single_Dude
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:50 PM CST

StressFree wrote:
Ha! I went to a private school Indydude.....

And I'm a proud Californian. A different America than Hoosierville....lol
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Indyfella
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Posted: Oct 7, 2008, 6:52 PM CST

Hot_Single_Dude wrote:
Yeah in deed this is a true sign that Obama is able to respect any ameircans no matter what relegion they have! Muslims are a part of the United States as well and Naming Muslims by it self does not mean the man is bad or any thing Indyfella!

Even the lord of darkness and ignorence him self , George W Bush made a dinner party for Muslims every year in their Eid you see?

What would you prefer then? Calling for eliminating Muslims or any stupied things as that? As told before........ Never forget Nazis had a whole bunch of reaons to hate Jewish people and they have explained that in their books very deeply but still the history has shown us that nazism is one of the greatest enemies of humanity, and peace amoung nations!

In a time where almost the whole nation of America was Angry and wanted to attack any muslims and it actually happeend many places after 9/11...... a man with balls of steel Barack Obama stood firmly agaisnt Hatered as he also stood against the Stupied war in Iraq in a time where no body dared doing so!

This particular Quote of Obama is one of the best ones made by him showing how admirable and brave this true man of honur is!

Never endorse the Evil moud of the mess who want to hang them all Indy..... because if you do so, life has learned you not a damn thing!



that would be "taught" .... but thanks for all your insight.rolling on the floor laughing





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