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Geroge W Bush and his stupied war in Iraq is and will be the only real reason of these current horrible economichal difficulties in the whole planet!

A fact even economy proffesors are very agree a bout .......

So I really cant stop thinking what I have known for a long time Stressfree!

The main reason why so many organisations abused their actions based on Greed , was a George W Bush in the White House and the matter is certain as nothign else!

But of course...... We dont have to be agree a bout any thing Stressfree!

Watch an old war monger dude "trying" to debate a true force of change and prosperity and better times for all of us!

A minute form now..................

I totally disagree Kansan. Nothing personal, but we have two different opinions. That is all.

The civil war was fought in America Kansan. And in 1864, America was not the superpower of the world, so the civil war was not as damaging to the rest of the world on all levels...especially with the global markets. The dynamics of everything is drastically different Kansan...or so it seems to me. That is all.

Doggone kids! Cain't teach 'em nothin' 'cause they already know it all!

And EVERYTHING in the known world was affected by the outcome of both wars (independence and civil). The only thing that's really different, really, is the numbers and the cost.
And I think that history will tell us that the "dynamics" are really very much the same when put into the perspective of the respective times.

Watch an old war monger dude "trying" to debate a true force of change and prosperity and better times for all of us!

A minute form now..................

According to the commentator that is about a $300b dollar
program.

Here in Florida, we have many new housing development going
up or are up. With the housing buble burst, home owners have
gotten clobbered. Without the propoerty value, they cannot
use the house as equity for loans or creditlines.

I think McCain is seeing this. Says that if we restore the house
market value, we recover these sources of income to home
owners.

Seems to me to be the fastest way to effect this at grassroots.
Also will keep people in thier homes.

Thoughts?

It's too late, the economy is in shambles, and that is what is on the voters minds. McCain will not benefit from this scenario....

Okay, I got both Fox news and CNN on simultaneously right now...should be interesting to hear these two versions of the debate.

So far, CNN has people talking in favor for Obama.

And Fox has McCain as the winner in the first half, but the loser in the second half of the debate.

I think Obama did enough to secure his lead in the polls.

How exactly will he do that? And how long would it take? He made a broad statement. Both candidates made broad statements. They don't have the answers to everything. Who ever did?

Wait, now Fox is saying McCain won the debate with their polls (text votes) and CNN is telling me Obama won with their respective polls.

Who should I believe?

It's war on our eggshell minds

Great NEWS courtesy of Fox: Nevada state authorities seized records and computers Tuesday from the Las Vegas office of an organization that tries to get low-income people registered to vote, after fielding complaints of voter fraud.

Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state's office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about "erroneous" registration information being submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

The group was submitting the information through a voter sign-up drive known as Project Vote.

"Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications," Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.

Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.

Walsh said agents from both the secretary of state's office and Nevada attorney general's office conducted the raid at 9:30 a.m. local time, and "took a bunch of stuff."

ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson confirmed the group's Nevada office was raided. He would not comment further to FOXNews.com.

Neither the group, which hires canvassers to register voters, nor any employees have been charged or arrested for fraud or other crimes, said Miller, a Democrat.

But it's not the first time ACORN's been under investigation for registration irregularities. The raid is the latest of at least nine investigations into possible fraudulent voter registration forms submitted by ACORN -- the probes have involved ACORN workers in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Indiana and other states.

In 2006, ACORN also committed what Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed called the "worse case of election fraud" in the state's history.

In the case, ACORN submitted just over 1,800 new voter registration forms, and all but six of the 1,800 names were fake.

More recently, 27,000 registrations handled by the group from January to July 2008 "went into limbo because they were incomplete, inaccurate, or fraudulent," said James Terry, chief public advocate at the Consumers Rights League.For some reason, Chris Matthews isn't talking about this on Hardball.

What about the military's technology and capability? The US had tanks, an air force and nuclear weapons in 1865? Other countries had them too?

You know, almost a year ago, I was told by another forum member that I needed to do stomach crunches or some similar exercise because it would dispell or at least alleviate the gastro-intestinal problems I was having. I did and it exacerbated the situation. 10 days ago I had my gallbladder removed because of those same problems. The person who advocated this these exercises - and who shall remain nameless - didn't have all the facts...

:waves white flag:

LMFAO, gosh...from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN

"In contrast, John Atlas argues in a Huffington Post editorial that ACORN has "accumulated many enemies" and has been "subjected to vicious attacks from business lobbyists, conservative politicians, and right-wing media." This same source alleges that the George W. Bush administration has sought to harass ACORN with accusation of voter fraud."

ACORN=radical change

ACORN endorsed the candidacy of Barack Obama during the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary.